When we stop being curious, we stop growing.
Curiosity was a big part of the discussion between me and Jordan Paris during our discussion for the Freedom Club Podcast.
Curiosity also is what’s fueled twenty-one-year-old Jordan to embark on his journey to learn and build a growth mindset through his world travels and Growth Mindset University — his podcast which is ranked #15 on the Apple Podcast charts for Education. He also authored a book by the same name.
“I think the biggest thing I’ve learned over time is that I don’t know everything,” I told Jordan during our interview. “And when I came out of school, I was arrogant as hell. I thought I knew everything. I had these internships in DC and New York City and I came out I didn’t listen to my mentors as much as I should have.”
“Now 20-something years later I remember what they told me,” said. “And at the time I was so arrogant and because of some humbling things that have happened, I think the most important thing I’ve learned is that I don’t know everything and to be curious.
“Because once you think you know everything you stop growing.”
“One of my favorite movies growing up was Curious George,” he said. “And I love the soundtrack to it and one of my favorite songs is Upside Down by Jack Johnson, just a really, a song that a song that represents….it’s like my anthem, you know it represents curiosity and all things love of life and exploring.
“I just really enjoyed that song and I enjoyed the movie and identify with Curious George. I had an Instagram post from like the Bahamas with swimming pigs and the caption was The Adventures of Curious Jordan and that’s that’s what I that’s who I that’s what it is.”
Jordan said that once you stop being curious, you can become closed off to new ideas.
“Those times where my ego runs a little bit high and I’m less curious and I think I have it figured out,” he said. “I soon come crashing down right after then and then being curious again is what makes me go back up a little bit little bit higher than before.”
In our full interview, Jordan and I discuss the problem with the current higher education model, the meaning of “growth mindset”, the keys to a successful podcast, and why it’s important to never stop being curious.
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